90/180 Days Rule - FlyerTalk Forums (2024)

LouiseG

Join Date: Apr 2022

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Apologies if this is in the wrong forum.

I am a UK citizen and my new job role I do requires me to visit places in Europe. Has anyone else encountered being close to the 90 day limit or have found an alternative option for travelling without having to track every day spent in the Schengen?
I am about to start searching online but just curious if there is a visa to allow me to carry on my job without worry. To note it is not one specific country I visit. It can be anywhere in Europe really.

Thanks

KLouis

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Sorry, I can't help you but I'm sure you can get all the needed info if you contact Nigel Farage's staff (https://www.facebook.com/nigelfarageofficial/).

GregWTravels

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Back in the early 2000s, the consulting company in Canada I was working for had an app that you would enter where you had been travelling, and it would keep totals - but that was for tax purposes not for the 90/180 day rule. I did however, download all the information (you could grab a CSV) and create an Excel spreadsheet, which I adapted to track time in Schengen when I moved to the UK and was living here on my Canadian passport (as Canadians face the same 90/180 rule). I've adapted it for when I was tracking my time out of the country for my British Indefinite Leave to Remain/Citizenship and to do vacation count to see how much holiday I have left.

Travel tracking spreadsheet

Schengen Count

I can provide a link to a copy (with all my data removed, naturally). I have done a bunch of messing around with formulas (nothing complex) to make it work. Requires little maintenance other than keeping it up to date (unless you change jobs and your vacation collection/redemption year changes). Doesn't handle multiple countries in a day well, but if just being used to track Schengen, as long you you put a Schengen country in for that day, it'll keep the count accurately.

fabian_TIA

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No, there is not or at least not Schengen wide. Even a five-year multiple entry Schengen Visa would come with the 90 within 180 days rule. National Type D visa exist and allow for longer stays (and depending on the category) work. They're, however, as the name implies national and not Schengen wide. 90 out of 180 days would still apply outside of the Schengen country that has issued the visa. Could of course still be a solution when your work trips are mostly to let's say France with much fewer days in other countries.

For counting days, the following tool exists: Schengen-calculator (europa.eu)

farci

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No distinction between business and leisure travel for third countries like UK, but there is a calculator you can download to forecast available visa free time like this one https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...2&opi=89978449

sydunipete

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I feel your pain. When I was travelling a lot on my Australian passport I used a speadsheet and the Schengen calculator listed above to track my Schengen time.

I received a lecture when leaving Germany once (I was well within my 90 days), sometimes they just flicked through my many stamps and soon gave up.

I believe from later this year you will no longer receive stamps. I also believe the countries don't have a way of sharing information (hence the stamps) but I wouldn't want to put this to the test.

For a while I had a temporary visa to Sweden and was told I could do 90 days immediately before the visa started, then (because the visa was for longer than 90 days) do another 90 days back to back. There was no need to leave Schengen between the visa and visa free periods (but get your own advice on this). In this way I did 3 months schengen visa waiver, 6 months temporary resident and 3 months schengen visa waiver all back to back.

I have now solved this because I now have an EU passport.

Engineering Travel

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Im in the same situation and have been travelling in and out of the Schengen area since brexit. We are limited to 90 in any rolling 180 day period, Note that it is days and not nights. If they are single trips and not all connected with the same project its fine. If its a single project and you are in and out, they may ask more information and point you towards getting a work visa for that specific country.

Some countries dont ask much where as in my experience the Scandic ones ask for more details, like copy of return flights where you are staying etc. This applies to both working and holiday trips.

Denmark tried to go through my entry exit stamps but gave up as they were randomly placed on various pages and they took my word for it.

At present, I dont belive that all the Schengen area countries have a system where the entries are recorded collectively. Obviously this will change when the new system is rolled out.

I use an app that is very basic and free, 90 days Schengen.

But to finish, there is no way around it, unless you get a European passport.